Crossofstgeorge Debate

[Aslan]

Well, I have just returned from a most enlightening trip to the States, where the Americans are in total ignorance of what Labour is trying to do to England.

I had a marvellous week long flying visit, speaking to many different people, radio shows and some tv recordings, as well as meetings with political representatives from both Republican and Democrat wings.

The US has no idea what is going on. It is all the more evident that Blair has used the war with Iraq to ingratiate the Americans so that while everyone's eye is on this ball, he is busily unravelling England and her right to democracy on this side of the pond.

I gave fulsome explanations to many different groups of people all made possible by a Constitutional Law Professor, who contacted us some 18 months ago, wishing us well with our seemingly impossible task, but understanding clearly what we were up against. He invited us over to tell everyone what is going on and he did us proud!

I found an extremely warm reception from America, although I realise that some of this was thanks and gratitude for support in the Iraq situation, which is still as devisive a situation in the US as it is over here.

The people of the US are misunderstood. Certainly I felt that the belief in eradicating tyranny in the world was a mantra which ran through the people of the US like words in a stick of rock and all the monuments I saw (Lincoln Memorial, Arlington Cemetary, Washington Memorial) in stations and airports excerpts from America's great men all espousing the end of tyranny and the triumph of good over evil - not unlike our St. George - the eternal battle of good over the bad.

I think the BBC have alot of responsibility for giving the impression to us over here that the "special relationship" is all one way and not taken seriously by the Americans. I had no suggestion whatsoever that the Americans were anything other than grateful for what England has done over the years, and in fact some mentioned their embarrassment that the US didn't enter the 2nd world war earlier, even now they are clutched by guilt.

People I met had no idea about what Blair is doing to England and it came as a complete revelation and my audiences were often left in stunned silence as they were trying to compute the information I had given to them. Blair has lied to America in the same way he has lied to us, and the Americans will be alot quicker to cotton on to what is happening.

I lectured at two universities and had groups of students aghast at the cavalier way Blair and his cronies have ripped up the Constitution of the UK. Drawing comparisons like Canada appointing the president of the US, will be a firm comparative to Gordon Brown becoming the English Prime Minister - elected by a foreign country. Also suggestions that now that Blair has appointed 46% of the House of Lords is tantamount to suggesting that President Bush appoints 46% of the Senate, an idea people could hardly comprehend.

England denied her own voice in her own Parliament was seen as an outrage, and Americans asked me why people weren't rioting in the streets - I assured them it wasn't far off if the situation was not speedily rectified!

The openness of the press was a refreshing change. OK the quality and the adverts was a pain, but in terms of providing opportunities to speak I found the Americans open, interested and not shy of letting me use the media (all kinds, radio, tv and papers). They truly have a spirit of free speech, something we are on reflection sadly lacking.

Members of the public who phoned in were equally shocked about what they heard, and there was a real feeling of pain and sadness that England might, in the not too distant future pass into history. The most poignant aspect was America's disbelief that we could let this happen without even a vote - but this is modern day democracy in England - it does not exist.

We may criticise the Americans for many things. But what I learnt is that they truly are our greatest ally and firm friend in the fight against tyranny and although their methods may not always be what we want to see, they have a steadfast wish to keep humanity free and not enslaved by those Communistic forces that seek to recreate privalege for the few at the expense of the many.

In one week I saw a hardworking country that had achieved staggering things in just two hundred years. A country that held England in high regard for its culture, architecture, history and inventions. A country that still had strong ties to its former parent, even though it had gone its own way, it still looks behind to see what's happening in the old country, and was genuinely saddened by any suggestion England might slip into history as a unified country.

If anything my trip gave me renewed energy to fight to keep what we have and to reinvigorate it and to show America that the English will not be kowed by the battering it has taken at the hands of this dispicable crop of Labour and Tory politicians who have, consistently put their own very personal interests before that of England, the purveyor of civilisation to the modern world.

I felt ashamed our society had squandered our fabulous heritage and now treated itself and others with contempt for who and what it was and that we had allowed ourselves to become supine and weak and unworthy of carrying the English legacy our brave lions fought for through the ages.

I personally feel the need to redouble efforts to fight the tyranny of Labour and Conservative indifference with a renewed vigour and appeal to everyone to keep up the pressure and spread the word so that we can truly prove to the Americans that the English are still able to fight for their principles.....and win.

We have a helluva job on our hands.

[Hotspur]

great news, there was a mention I found

http://www.pennlive.com/news/patriotnews/index.ssf?/base/columnists/1145727703324800.xml&coll=1

well done.
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"the truth is that colouring federalism with nationalism is like painting a rat red: it kills the animal.

Federalism and Nationalism are contradictory and mutually Fatal".

[Aslan]

You might also want to refer to this one too! They kept me busy!!

http://www.susvalleypolicy.org/policynews.asp?aid=1184

Friends....there when you need them!

[KnightofStGeorge]

[KnightofStGeorge]

Well done Christine it all helps, good work
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Unsheath your swords all Englishmen,
Great winds of change are blowing,
King Alfred strides his land again,
And Drake's loud drum is rolling.


In the beginning of a change, the patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned.
When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot.

~Mark Twain

[KnightofStGeorge]

[isca]

Although we hope that the ripples will spread very much in America, the news is also being disseminated here also:

http://www.voidstar.com/ukpoliblog/index.php/fid/167

[Aslan]

Well it all helps. I have some more stuff to come, things are being printed as we speech and I have some invites to submit articles for US regional newspaper groups.

[Englishjac]

aslan is christine constable?
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A greater slaughter was not ever yet in this island slain by an army before this with swords blades – as books tell us, ancient scribe, since here from the east the Angles and Saxons came over across the broad sea, they sought Britain, the paid war makers overcame the Welsh… the keen heroes won a homeland

[Lance Dragon]

Who's Englishjac?
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RBS - Robbed by Scots
The deadliest enemies of the English are the British
Better a "Sour Little Englander" than a Poisonous Wee J ock.

[Englishjac]

me? i am engleburt humperdink
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A greater slaughter was not ever yet in this island slain by an army before this with swords blades – as books tell us, ancient scribe, since here from the east the Angles and Saxons came over across the broad sea, they sought Britain, the paid war makers overcame the Welsh… the keen heroes won a homeland

[Lance Dragon]

Have you been released like the 1000 asylum seeker rapists?
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RBS - Robbed by Scots
The deadliest enemies of the English are the British
Better a "Sour Little Englander" than a Poisonous Wee J ock.

[isca]

In an effort to try and get wider coverage and interest in your excellent article Aslan,
I emailed both the New York Times and The Washington Post (separately) giving them
the Susquehanna link ( http://www.susvalleypolicy.org/policynews.asp?aid=1184 ) and
saying that it should be thought provoking.

For good measure I also included the link:
http://www.englishdemocrats.org.uk/

Let us hope they are interested and bite!

[Englishjac]

no no, well i wasnt released with the current lot anyway
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A greater slaughter was not ever yet in this island slain by an army before this with swords blades – as books tell us, ancient scribe, since here from the east the Angles and Saxons came over across the broad sea, they sought Britain, the paid war makers overcame the Welsh… the keen heroes won a homeland

[JohnJo]

Christine,

Great job.