Crossofstgeorge Debate

English Democrat · Hero Joined: 16 Apr 2004 Posts: 2778 Location: ENGLAND

The English effect is happening !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Both UKIP and the BNP are debating changing their names on their respective web sites.

THIS IS A QUOTE FROM A BNP FORUM

"Controversy is not the purpose of this thread.

For several reasons I think the BNP should change the Party's name to the English National Partry.

Scots, Irish and Welsh quite rightly have their own Nationalist Parties which are acceptable, even to the Establishment. But these Nationals are also British. Whenever anyone mentions British Nationalism it is as though the Black Death has returned. I have no idea why Scots, Welsh or Irish Nationalism is ok but not 'British'. For much the same reasons I think we should have an English Parliament. The 'other' Brits can sit in our Parliament but not vice versa. It would not only ruff the collars of those politiciams who hate the English, it may also be attractive to voters. Also, in an English Parliament, 'British' people would not be able to sit in it."

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Looks like British is out and ENGLISH is in, both UKIP and BNP are now debating name changes !!!!!!!!
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Lance Dragon · Hero Joined: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 14694

That would be disastrous
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CoSG · Hero Joined: 05 May 2003 Posts: 3319 Location: East Anglia

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Have you finally flipped ED?

You want to see standoffs outside Oldham Crown Court between the English Nationalist Party bedecked in St George's Crosses and 'British Muslims'.

I'm very happy for the white nationalists and muslim extremists to continue to call themselves British.

Hotspur · Hero Joined: 09 May 2003 Posts: 12621

bloody insane, let them keep their union jacks and stay awy from us.
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HomeRuleforEngland · Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 09:44 am Post subject:

ED Is this a quote from somewhere?

Is the English Democrat Party considering an association with the BNP?

I wondered how long it would take for the BNP to try and jump onto the bandwagon of English Nationalism once it started to gather speed. A bunch of opportunists who seek to get their abhorrent rascist policies across by any means. They are not wanted. They are not true English Nationalists, they are racists and should return to their sewer.

isca · Hero Joined: 09 Feb 2005 Posts: 6545

Perhaps it's going to be called the Keighley Nationalist Party? Very Happy

English-Patriot · Saxon hero Joined: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 371

I think its a great idea would give us about 11,000 members and a huge vote in the election.

English-Patriot · Saxon hero Joined: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 371

Under such a name and with the size of membership i could see us easly getting some seats in the general election and the Euro election.

wonkotsane · Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 12:37 pm Post subject:

BNP are racist scum. They're British not English.
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English Democrat · Hero Joined: 16 Apr 2004 Posts: 2778 Location: ENGLAND

Hold on guys !!!!!

I think that UKIP and BNP debating removing/changing "UK" and "British" from their names reflects a mode swing in England from British to English Nationalism - this shows that WE are having an effect.

I'm only reporting what they are debating on their respective forums, if they did do such a thing then we have to know about it so that we can react accordingly.

Naturally I think personally that the mode swing from British to English is good and is putting pressure on these parties to reconsider their 'brands'

Up until recently UKIP and BNP have been the only parties that Nationalist voters can vote for - so hopefully there are some English Nationalists out there who will be switching over as the English Democrats profile increases.

English Independence Party and English National Party are already registered political parties, so there is not many name possibilities for UKIP or the BNP.

Probably find that they will end up with

"Independence Party"

and

"National Party"

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Lance Dragon · Hero Joined: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 14694

The BNP becoming Engish would be a total imitigated disaster for our movement.
It would justify everything that has been said about it being an English party and would alienate the vast majority of English people who want an English Parliament. We have a tough enough job now dissaociating ourselves from the BNP and this would be the nail in the coffin of English nationalism.
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wonkotsane · Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 13:34 pm Post subject:

HAving anything to do with the BNP or any implied association with the BNP would be the worst possible thing for the English Democrats Party and English nationalism in general. What's the point in spending so much time and effort trying to disassociate English nationalism from racist British white nationalists if you then even contemplate some sort of tie-up with them for the sake of a few votes? Talk about selling your soul.
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